CAN 2017

[The Cardinals]

Honestly I don't understand Congolese people anymore. We are the most demanding set of supporters since the creation of football. People are quick to criticize Florent and call him every name in their vocabulary that is synonymous to incompetence.

Yes we played super badly against Maroc. Yes they had 25 players out etc etc. Bref...what do we want?
Personally I want 3 points...3 points and 3 points. I've been an avid football fan for the last 25 yrs and I've learned that at the end of the day, only points (victories) counts...and at the moment stats are showing that we have 3 points and are leading the group. So once again, what more do we want? I hear people saying that we need to "dominate" games, "Ibenge is clueless" etc etc. This is CAN 2015 all over again.
When we win...it's thanks to individual players...and not the coach (a la Kabananga...even though people like FaceofAfrica dissed him prior to the match, but then got a golden duck...like they say in Cricket ). When we lose or play badly, we are quick to blame the coach.

We all have our favourite players and tactics that we swear by and we all want to see the leopards play "our" way. I would love to see Mpoku, Maghoma and Kebano play together...I've always liked Nicaise...since he was 18...so I would love for him to be our number 1, I would love to see Chancel play as a center back, I'll give anything to have Mbokani and Bakambu play up front together, I would love to never see Issama in the team again ....but what I love most is WINNING and 3 POINTS. If you look at our last 5 official games....what do you see? I see 5 victories and 3 of those victories came away from home. So my question to you guys again is "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" we want to play "joga bonito", but history has proven that "joga bonito" doesn't always win you games.

Greece played horrible in 2004...but history will remember them as champions and archives will shows a young Cristiano Ronaldo crying at the final whistle.

Bayern Munich played well and dominated Manchester United at the Nou Camp in the Champions league final 1998...but history will remember Teddy Sherignham and Ole Gunnar Solksjaer scoring 2 goals in the 90th minute. Archives will show Samuel Kuffour crying like a baby on television.

Portugal played super badly during Euro 2016, but history will remember them as champions.

Cape Verde imposed their "style" on teams at CAN 2015...the result was that they went home in the group stages.

Claude Leroy had a "vision" "game-play" etc etc....what does history tell us about his tenure as our coach?

So I ask again, what do we want? do you want to win the possession and passing game? or do we want the 3 points?

Honestly some people in here just want to criticize for the fact of criticizing...move on it's a bit sad and actually!

You know you are 100% right! But let me ask you this... let's assume we win this trophy and even make it to the next World Cup..is it with this type of EPFKIN style of play that we are going to the World Cup with?
History also showed us Saudi Arabia was one of the biggest team in their Asian cup in the late 90's...how did they perform in 98 and 2002? Thats my fear with this team!!! A bisrepetita of 74! With this type of football we playing we'll only be good for the continent...Friendly games with our fellow africans! In the past 2yrs and smth, we have not improved! We keep turning in circle. By now it shouldn't be a problem for us to book a game with European,Asian,Latino National teams...but yet we keep playing Cameroun when we get Romania or Irak :Big Deal hahaha

But you do point out some good issues with us congolese and I hope I answered just a lil "What else do I(me) want"

[sedigo]

Honestly I don't understand Congolese people anymore. We are the most demanding set of supporters since the creation of football. People are quick to criticize Florent and call him every name in their vocabulary that is synonymous to incompetence.

Yes we played super badly against Maroc. Yes they had 25 players out etc etc. Bref...what do we want?
Personally I want 3 points...3 points and 3 points. I've been an avid football fan for the last 25 yrs and I've learned that at the end of the day, only points (victories) counts...and at the moment stats are showing that we have 3 points and are leading the group. So once again, what more do we want? I hear people saying that we need to "dominate" games, "Ibenge is clueless" etc etc. This is CAN 2015 all over again.
When we win...it's thanks to individual players...and not the coach (a la Kabananga...even though people like FaceofAfrica dissed him prior to the match, but then got a golden duck...like they say in Cricket ). When we lose or play badly, we are quick to blame the coach.

We all have our favourite players and tactics that we swear by and we all want to see the leopards play "our" way. I would love to see Mpoku, Maghoma and Kebano play together...I've always liked Nicaise...since he was 18...so I would love for him to be our number 1, I would love to see Chancel play as a center back, I'll give anything to have Mbokani and Bakambu play up front together, I would love to never see Issama in the team again ....but what I love most is WINNING and 3 POINTS. If you look at our last 5 official games....what do you see? I see 5 victories and 3 of those victories came away from home. So my question to you guys again is "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" we want to play "joga bonito", but history has proven that "joga bonito" doesn't always win you games.

Greece played horrible in 2004...but history will remember them as champions and archives will shows a young Cristiano Ronaldo crying at the final whistle.

Bayern Munich played well and dominated Manchester United at the Nou Camp in the Champions league final 1998...but history will remember Teddy Sherignham and Ole Gunnar Solksjaer scoring 2 goals in the 90th minute. Archives will show Samuel Kuffour crying like a baby on television.

Portugal played super badly during Euro 2016, but history will remember them as champions.

Cape Verde imposed their "style" on teams at CAN 2015...the result was that they went home in the group stages.

Claude Leroy had a "vision" "game-play" etc etc....what does history tell us about his tenure as our coach?

So I ask again, what do we want? do you want to win the possession and passing game? or do we want the 3 points?

Honestly some people in here just want to criticize for the fact of criticizing...move on it's a bit sad and actually!

You know you are 100% right! But let me ask you this... let's assume we win this trophy and even make it to the next World Cup..is it with this type of EPFKIN style of play that we are going to the World Cup with?
History also showed us Saudi Arabia was one of the biggest team in their Asian cup in the late 90's...how did they perform in 98 and 2002? Thats my fear with this team!!! A bisrepetita of 74! With this type of football we playing we'll only be good for the continent...Friendly games with our fellow africans! In the past 2yrs and smth, we have not improved! We keep turning in circle. By now it shouldn't be a problem for us to book a game with European,Asian,Latino National teams...but yet we keep playing Cameroun when we get Romania or Irak :Big Deal hahaha

But you do point out some good issues with us congolese and I hope I answered just a lil "What else do I(me) want"

oui mais en suivant ta logique tu parle deja de remporter une CAN ce qui est super cool pour nousmeme si ca ne marche pas a la coupe du monde. les equpes qui ont remportE la CAN avant netaint pas forcement tres bon a la coupe du monde ex: cameroun en 2002. Je naime pas notre facon de jouer mais je me dis si Ibenge remportait en jouant comme ca je vais quand meme faire couler des larmes de joie.

[@kadimus]

Honestly I don't understand Congolese people anymore. We are the most demanding set of supporters since the creation of football. People are quick to criticize Florent and call him every name in their vocabulary that is synonymous to incompetence.

Yes we played super badly against Maroc. Yes they had 25 players out etc etc. Bref...what do we want?
Personally I want 3 points...3 points and 3 points. I've been an avid football fan for the last 25 yrs and I've learned that at the end of the day, only points (victories) counts...and at the moment stats are showing that we have 3 points and are leading the group. So once again, what more do we want? I hear people saying that we need to "dominate" games, "Ibenge is clueless" etc etc. This is CAN 2015 all over again.
When we win...it's thanks to individual players...and not the coach (a la Kabananga...even though people like FaceofAfrica dissed him prior to the match, but then got a golden duck...like they say in Cricket ). When we lose or play badly, we are quick to blame the coach.

We all have our favourite players and tactics that we swear by and we all want to see the leopards play "our" way. I would love to see Mpoku, Maghoma and Kebano play together...I've always liked Nicaise...since he was 18...so I would love for him to be our number 1, I would love to see Chancel play as a center back, I'll give anything to have Mbokani and Bakambu play up front together, I would love to never see Issama in the team again ....but what I love most is WINNING and 3 POINTS. If you look at our last 5 official games....what do you see? I see 5 victories and 3 of those victories came away from home. So my question to you guys again is "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" we want to play "joga bonito", but history has proven that "joga bonito" doesn't always win you games.

Greece played horrible in 2004...but history will remember them as champions and archives will shows a young Cristiano Ronaldo crying at the final whistle.

Bayern Munich played well and dominated Manchester United at the Nou Camp in the Champions league final 1998...but history will remember Teddy Sherignham and Ole Gunnar Solksjaer scoring 2 goals in the 90th minute. Archives will show Samuel Kuffour crying like a baby on television.

Portugal played super badly during Euro 2016, but history will remember them as champions.

Cape Verde imposed their "style" on teams at CAN 2015...the result was that they went home in the group stages.

Claude Leroy had a "vision" "game-play" etc etc....what does history tell us about his tenure as our coach?

So I ask again, what do we want? do you want to win the possession and passing game? or do we want the 3 points?

Honestly some people in here just want to criticize for the fact of criticizing...move on it's a bit sad and actually!

You know you are 100% right! But let me ask you this... let's assume we win this trophy and even make it to the next World Cup..is it with this type of EPFKIN style of play that we are going to the World Cup with?
History also showed us Saudi Arabia was one of the biggest team in their Asian cup in the late 90's...how did they perform in 98 and 2002? Thats my fear with this team!!! A bisrepetita of 74! With this type of football we playing we'll only be good for the continent...Friendly games with our fellow africans! In the past 2yrs and smth, we have not improved! We keep turning in circle. By now it shouldn't be a problem for us to book a game with European,Asian,Latino National teams...but yet we keep playing Cameroun when we get Romania or Irak :Big Deal hahaha

But you do point out some good issues with us congolese and I hope I answered just a lil "What else do I(me) want"

Well said bro! At least you are bringing in a great argument and not just throwing cheap insults.

[black]

Aujourd'hui il y avait un fond de jeu.. Mieux que contre le maroc. Mais je soupsonne des choses bizarres chez ibenge... Le vrai changement pouvait être mbokani et bakambu. Bon, être premier à la deuxième journée n'est pas rien. Je crois que la RDC va se qialifier avec le Maroc

[Ivan Shalamar]

Junior Kabananga est entrain de faire la une de tous les consultants. Il impressionne!
Très bonne intuition de l'avoir récupéré.
Cette équipe des Léopards va faire des ravages dans les années qui viennent.
Il faut trouver un autre joueur avec la classe de Mbemba et Maghoma dans la récupération. Mulumbu n'a plus sa place dans cette équipe.
Si on va en coupe du monde il faudra trouver un gardien plus rassurant.
Mbokani a du talent mais son âge commence à lui faire des tours. Afobe arrive...
Après le match d'aujourd'hui je suis rassuré et pense qu'en travaillant dans la durée...l'Afrique va trembler.

[temk20]

Je n'ai pas suivi le match difficile d'être objectif. Sur facebook j'ai vu les gens dire que le coach acait peur de perdre...
Sur le but de l'egalisation Kebano et Kabanga n'ont fourni aucun effort, ba lembaki ou bien?
On est encore loin d'avoir la meilleure équipe.

[wantanshi]

Les conditions climatiques épuisent apparemment plus d'un.

[Santoss]

Je n'ai pas suivi le match difficile d'être objectif. Sur facebook j'ai vu les gens dire que le coach acait peur de perdre...
Sur le but de l'egalisation Kebano et Kabanga n'ont fourni aucun effort, ba lembaki ou bien?
On est encore loin d'avoir la meilleure équipe.

Nous ne sommes peut-être pas la meilleure équipe, mais on a des vrais atouts au niveau offensif.
Mpoku, Botaka et Bokila n'ont pas encore joué, le banc est assez large.
Laisse souci que l'on pourrait se faire, ce sont les blessures en défense.

Je pense que la RDC a les moyens nécessaire pour aller jusqu'au bout, aucune équipe ne m'impressionne dans ce tournoi.

[Mike]

Nous avons difficile a conserver une avance...Et Bope dans l'axe ca n a pas rassure.
Pour Matampi, Je ne rougirai pas si Ibenge essayait un autre.

[Santoss]

Nous avons difficile a conserver une avance...Et Bope dans l'axe ca n a pas rassure.
Pour Matampi, Je ne rougirai pas si Ibenge essayait un autre.

On disait tous que le point faible d eMatampi, c'était sa petite taille et sa mauvaise lecture sur les centres, les Ivoiriens avaient compris cela, ils déposaient leurs centres juste à l'entrée du petit carré, on était constamment en danger.

Bope a fait ce qu'il pouvait faire, match elekaki ye na poids, je ne pense pas que Zakuani va revenir avant la fin de la compétition, il faudrait faire avec.

Le monde est entrain de découvrir notre ministre de la Défense, Tisserand, un joueur à la fois élégant et sec, avec des relances digne d'un milieu de terrain.